Meet Zoe, an actress catching my eye this year due to her furious need to create, act, produce, write, and foster real art every second of the day. You can feel her presence on screen the moment she arrives. She is also pleasantly comfortable in her own skin, exhibits a compelling emotional range, and a true smart-ass timing when it comes to comedic delivery. Her IMDB page houses a plump filmography of 30 film and TV shows that she’s appeared in to satiate her appetite while sharpening her acting chops. Although her name is still unassuming and under-the-radar, pay attention to her diversity in a slew of upcoming films where she shares screentime with Angelina Jolie (Salt), Ryan Gosling and Kirsten Dunst (All Good Things directed by Andrew Jarecki), and James Franco (In Praise of Shadows).
(Zoe Lister Jones)
My favorite films to experience however are the ones that are pure labors of love… the ones created by an actors’ personal fever, and usually personal circle of friends. On April 2nd, we will be seeing Zoe do her own thing in Breaking Upwards, a film she co-wrote with her boyfriend actor/director Daryl Wein, and friend Peter Duchan. Zoe also wrote alot of the songs in the film too.
The premise of the story is based on an emotionally connected couple who orchestrate a breakup, and all the peripheral scenarios that abound in this futile task of leaving a “soul-mate-ish” existence. The conversations are frank, humorous and resemble the kookiness of a modern Woody Allen relationship, deeply rooted in intellectualizing something as simple (and complicated) as love. I stopped to ask Zoe a few questions about her craft, her music, taking risks, and the little film that could.
(Zoe Lister Jones. Actress, Co-Writer, Co-Producer for Breaking Upwards)
Jauretsi: First off, thank you for making a great film on the trials and tribulations of breaking up with your best friend. The film seems so real at moments — sincere suffering, blunt sex moments, piercing jealousies, and sometimes downright funny awkward dialogue between lovers who are “over it”. How much of the film is culled from real life experiences? Were there any scenes that were directly plucked out of real life?
Zoe Lister: Thanks Jauretsi! Well, the film is loosely based on an open relationship that Daryl and I were in about two years into our now nearly 6 year long (holy ish!) relationship. We wrote it with a friend of ours named Peter Duchan so there’s quite a bit of his reality in there too. But you know the foundational aspects of the script, days on days off, polyamory, hyper communication, are all factual.
(Zoe Lister Jones with Daryl Wein, real life and onscreen boyfriend, and Director of Breaking Upwards)
J: You seem to be a true New Yorker with an intense knowledge in theater. Can you tell us a bit about your background, your childhood, and the influences that brought you where you are today as an actress?
I was raised in Brooklyn, my parents are both visual artists. Went to public school (except for 7th and 8th grade which at that time were a sort of educational void in the BK public school system). I was always interested in performing, and became part of an avant garde dance troupe when I was 12…sort of went that route for a while. And then in high school I slowly started inching my way into plays and realized how much I loved acting. But I was really apprehensive about committing to what I saw (and still in many ways do see) as a totally superficial profession. I got a scholarship to NYU Tisch and my mom said I’d be crazy to pass it up.
When I graduated from Tisch, I wrote a one woman show called Codependence is a Four Letter Word, in which I played 11 different characters coping with various forms of heartbreak. I raised 1,500 bucks and rented a theater at PS 122 in the East Village and put it up for 5 days. It got chosen as a New York Times Hot Pick and I landed an agent and manager from it. So early on in my professional life I began learning that there was big reward in making my own work.
In terms of theater, about a year later I was cast in the world premiere of a play called The Little Dog Laughed, which went on to Broadway and won a TONY for Best Actress for Julie White (who incidentally stars in Breaking Upwards!) She taught me a lot, and continues to, about acting. She’s a badass bitch and she slays every time and always slays on her own terms. My mom’s a huge influence too, not only because she’s smart and rad but because she’s always made video art that was fairly autobiographical and thought provoking. She was never afraid to take risks in her work, and really lay it all out there, which is a risk in itself.
(Zoe Lister Jones with Andrea Martin)
J: I noticed in the film Breaking Upwards, one of my favorite women of comedy appears, Andrea Martin of SCTV days. How did she get involved? Also, it seems some cameos were very familiar old-school respected thespians from New York acting circles. Can you enlighten us on any faces to expect in the film?
ZL: With Andrea Martin we just made a straight offer to her agent. Daryl and I were acting as casting directors in that respect, but our casting process was all direct offers, no auditions. Before I signed on to write, Daryl and our co-writer Peter wrote the role of Daryl’s Mom for Julie White (who’s probably most recognizable as Shia leBeouf’s zany Mom in Transformers and Transformers 2), who, as I mentioned, I had been on and off Broadway with in The Little Dog Laughed. She’s such an esteemed stage actor, so having her attached from the start really helped legitimize the project to the actors we didn’t know. I think for a film with such a miniscule budget, in other circumstances it would have been hard for agents to take our cold calls seriously. But we’re so proud of our cast, they’re the most amazing actors and criminally underused in Hollywood: Peter Friedman (Savages), Pablo Schreiber (The Wire), LaChanze (TONY winner, The Color Purple), Heather Burns (Bored to Death), Ebon Moss Bachrach (Damages), and Olivia Thirlby (Juno).
(Julie White)
(Peter Friedman)
J: It seems there’s some improvisation in the film? Is this a comfort zone to you, playing with raw spontaneity? Or are you glued to the letter of the script? What pulls out the best performance in you?
ZL: While there is definitely some improv in the film, it’s about 95 percent scripted. Julie White and Andrea Martin are such geniuses that once they start ad libbing it’s comedy gold. But we worked really intensely on the script, each character’s arc, strong dialogue, structure, etc. Because we were frustrated at the number of DIY films that were missing those elements. I do love improv and feel quite comfortable doing it, but only when there’s great material to riff off of.
(Ebon Moss-Bachrach)
J: I see you are responsible for creating some of the music in the film. On a whole separate note, what was the process for creating this body of work? Did you write these songs years ago, or was it created in sync with the development of the story?
ZL: The soundtrack for the film is all original (with the exception of one song by my friend Jack Lewis which is rad). I wrote the lyrics and my friend, the brilliant Kyle Forester, composed the music. He also composed the entire score. The songs were written specifically for the film, in part because I love making music, but also because we couldn’t afford to license any of the bands we love. It was a shit ton of work, but writing lyrics is so much fun for me, and so is producing songs, figuring out the vibe and tone of each… it’s the best. Kyle and I had collaborated on a covers album of piano ballad versions of pop and rap songs in 2004 called Skip the Kiss. So we have a great working relationship. We recorded them all in the basement of a house in Ditmas Park, Brooklyn with Gary Olson of The Ladybug Transistor. We all sing on it, (Daryl too!) as well as the lead singer of Guster, Ryan Miller, who’s a good friend.
J: What projects are coming up next for you? You seem like a self-starter and constantly surrounded by creative collective of multi-talented friends.
ZL: Yes! I’m lucky to have such a great community of creative friends! We couldn’t have made Breaking Upwards without them. In terms of what’s next, Daryl and I have 3 feature length screenplays we’re trying to get off the ground. We got signed with writing agents in LA so they’re circulating them, seeing what sticks. But we’re indie to the core, so anyone out there looking to invest, we’re ready to go.

In theaters April 2 in New York, and April 9 in Los Angeles. The film will expand to more cities thereafter. Also available via VOD, check your local listings.